Today I went back to DoBond Market to buy a bag of Gai Lohm despite the price ($3.73 for a small bag) to sample...BUT.....I guess due to her thick Vietnamese accent, we had miscommunicated Saturday...it was NOT grown here locally but in California. She said that was why it is so expensive, and that it is a winter crop here just as any of us would expect. Nonetheless, I have 2 packets of 'Blue Star' coming from www.Evergeenseeds.com and look forward to trying this VERY thicked-stemmed Asian brassica this winter, and sharing seeds with friends as those stems look very succulent and tender. Folks in colder climates should grow this when they would other brassicas like boy choy, broccoli, cabbage, the various forage rapes, Brussell's Sprouts, etc. Sorry for the mixup!