Unbelievable...day before yesterday I shucked and sowed seeds from several dried heads of lovely ornamental sunflowers sown by descendants of the hybrid mix 'Autumn Sunset' and planted them in a wide shallow saucer of soil from down deep in the chicken path to see if thwy are viable.....they are germinating in vast numbers TODAY, some with their first leaves open!!! Since each new generation results from cross pollinations plus reverting back from hybrid to ancestral forms, I never know each year what the new ones will look like.