It took me near 25 years of trying here and in Denver, but today I got my first ever "Ramps", (Allium tricoccum) these from the woods of West Virginia. Seeds have always failed for me (they NEED winter) and my efforts to grow plants to eat and grow (very unlikely in south Tampa) have always failed. I've eaten one.....wonderful flavor, like rich garlic with a touch of scallion. I will plant a few in shady parts of my yard but will not hold my breath for long term survival. So cool that my persistence paid off! John